Disciple: The younger Naren too never comes here.
Mother: No, he doesn't. At Dakshineswar, he used to go to the Master. He was dark and slim, with face covered with pox marks. The Master had great affection for him.
Disciple: Paltu Babu came here only once. Tarak Babu (of Belgharia) comes occasionally.
Mother: Paltu too visits now and then. He gives me a rupee every month. He is very poor himself. If I am in Jayrambati. he sends the money there.
Paltu and Manindra visited the Master as kids merely ten or eleven years old! At Cossipore, on the day of the
Dol-Yatra, all were out celebrating the festival, sprinkling
abir (a kind of red perfumed powder) over one another with great joy. These two boys did not go. Both were fanning the Master, changing hands frequently. They were too young to manage it single-handed! They massaged the Master's feet. The Master was suffering from severe headache due to cough. So constant fanning was necessary.
The Master told them, "Go, go out and play with a
bir. See, all are out enjoying!" Paltu said, "No, sir, we will not go. We will remain here. Is it possible for us to leave you here all by yourself?" No amount of persuasion made them go out to participate in the festive occasion. The Master wept as he said later, "These are indeed my Ramlala come to take care of me. So tender in age, yet the festivities outside could not make them leave me and go!" Saying this the Master's eyes were full of tears.
Disciple: Many devotees used to visit the Master. Where are they now? None of them comes to see you.
Mother: Oh, they are all leading happy Jives!
Disciple: What? Happy!
Mother: You are right. How can a man be happy in this world with his wife and children? They have forgotten themselves in 'woman and gold'. Everything in the world results in suffering, after all.
Disciple: Besides, the mind has outgoing propensities.
Mother: Kali, the Mother of the universe, is the Mother of all. It is She alone who has begotten both good and evil. Everything has come out of Her womb. There are different kinds of perfect souls-perfect from very birth
(Svatah-siddha), perfect through spiritual disciplines
(Sadhana-siddha), perfect through the grace of the teacher
(krpa-siddha), and made perfect all of a